this is the full text from our phone conversation with John Zerzan…

hello

hi john can you hear us? its ed here, sorry for calling you late… how are you doing

good

we’ve got a few of us here, John who you met the other day, Jamie my brother here also… sorry we didn’t get a chance to talk when you were over here…

yep that day in oxford

how was your trip to leicester?

yep good, and the gathering near Barcelona, that was really cool, there were about 100 people there, an
anti-civilisation meeting, and i found out about another one coming up in a week in Valencia, so gee i guess things are popping over there

we get the sense that there is a bit of a wave growing regarding these views - would you agree with that?

i sure hope so, there are some signs of growing interest, its not a groundswell yet, it seems to me there is a deepening of interest - these ideas have always been interesting and met with curiosity like wow that’s a crazy way to look at it.. which is fine, but what i’ve seen lately is its become a lot more relevant, and that maybe its going to be breaking through a bit more into the public arena
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